• thingAmaBob@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I’m realistic, but also allowed myself to be happy yesterday. Life should be enjoyed. I’m mostly excited about my local elections, as there is a much higher chances of things changing for the better in my state and county.

  • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I say that I hate the haters. But also my enthusiasm is dampened a little by the fact that we had to even experience this because people are soooo fucking stupid.

    I literally talked to a middle aged gay man recently who admitted he barely understood what happened Tuesday “Oh we elected a new governor? Or something? What are midterms?”

    Its like DUUUUDE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT HOW ARE YOU SO OBLIVIOUS???

    • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Just remember something. In the United States, you only exist in a democracy if you are in the top 10% of household incomes. Anyone poorer than this has absolutely zero say in government policy. Your votes don’t matter.

      And before some mouth-breathing moron starts hyperventilating about “encouraging people not to vote,” you can actually go look this up. It’s been studied. The opinions of the top 10%, and only the top 10%, are reflected in federal policy going back decades.

      This is why the vast majority of people don’t give a shit about democracy in the US. They don’t give a shit about protecting a democracy that they themselves are only nominally a part of. Just because you vote doesn’t mean your vote actually matters.

    • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
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      Ya like, good that we aren’t going to back slide into autocracy just yet. But like the reason is because the autocrats were so incredibly stupid and incompetent they did things that are directly tied to raising prices on everyone. If gas prices were low, this would have been like 2018.

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      In my friend group the two people least interested in politics are a queer guy and a hispanic guy. The rest of us are straight white dudes. I am always baffled that they are not more invested as people who are more likely to be negatively impacted.

  • mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    Present!

    (Please I am begging you Americans to keep up the pressure! Keep going for woke!)

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    Maybe find the middle ground? It is certainly a good reason to celebrate that republicans lost and Trump shuts up for once. It is also true that there are democrats that would just as well fit the republican party. But it is also sure as hell true that true progressives can only come out of democrats not republicans. So US should make it count, hold anti progressive, status quo democrats to account and root them out. Then it will become a flawless victory.

  • MrSulu@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    Policies are a spectrum. We do need to remain mindful of the similarities and the differences between red and blue. If there are overlapping similarities that we don’t like, we speak out, or not.

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      That’s what we said all the way. Vote blue, but don’t expect it to be magic pill. A truly democratic government is the one accountable to its people.

      The election results should be a wake up call. People are ready for the change, and are pissed with the government in a very bad way.

      It is a victory right here nonetheless. One of many coming forward, I hope.

      • wpb@lemmy.world
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        That’s what we said all the way.

        Yes, to your credit you probably said this, and a whole bunch of folks with you. But I’ve been in plenty of conversations with folks who outright deny that Biden is fully complicit in the Gaza genocide, or even worse, acknowledge this but then go “no biggie!”

  • saarth@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    We’ve seen Obama drone kill kids at weddings in Pakistan. We have seen this circus before.

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    I’ll believe in blue wave when the American empire contracts, it recalls its military, closes the global bases and releases everyone from their gulag supermaxxes

  • BigDiction@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 days ago

    Alright we’ve had numerous impassioned contributions from the community!

    Which commenter would you nominate as the most deserving for the Hater of the Thread?

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    I probably don’t understand the results fully, but it’s only 54 vs 44. 44. After all the literal Guardians Of Pedophiles did. I mean, it’s a victory alright, but idk, “blue wave” seems insanely exaggerated.

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      Once Mississippi and Alaska are confirmed it’ll likely be 56-44. If you’re not familiar with how the US Senate works, only a third of representatives are up for election each time. A lot of states have been considered solidly red or blue for a long time (with little change even with all the shit Trump has done up to this point), with only a handful of states being seen as competitive, but Democrats broke that gridlock in many states that people would’ve thought impossible. Kansas hasn’t had a Democratic senator in nearly a century.

      The senate was designed to limit popular momentum, but conversely, it also means that the senators that were elected yesterday won’t be up for reelection for another 6 years. It’ll be difficult if not impossible for the Republicans to regain control before then. If Democrats win the presidency in 2028 (which seems likely with Trump being unpopular), then we’ll be looking at a Democratic trifecta, which hasn’t happened since the first two years of Obama.

      Also, Texas going blue is monumental. It has a bajillion 40 electoral votes in our stupid system so it fundamentally reshapes the path to a presidential win.

    • slackassassin@sh.itjust.works
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      Naw. I get what you mean about the shit of it all. But, naw, not exagerated.

      Seats were won in states that haven’t turned over in ages, if ever. Not purple states but Texas, Kansas, Iowa, maybe even Mississippi ffs.

      In a two party fptp system where the Senate is comprised of 2 members from each state and you have places with more cows than people creating an uphill battle by design etc., ya it was a fuckin bloodbath.

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        It’s a blue tsunami and people that don’t understand that didn’t understand how fucked we were before. Probably the same people going “why don’t Democrats do anything as a minority in everi branch???”

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          people that don’t understand that didn’t understand how fucked we were before.

          And whose doing was that?

          Tell me honestly that the result would’ve been the same without Iran war and consequences of it.

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    I do feel like we’ve been here before though, when Obama and HOPE won so hard that there’d never be a Republican POTUS again, and then he conducted imperial BAU for eight years.

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      And we’ll be here again, because people are morons that don’t learn from their mistakes.

      I have seen almost non-stop celebration today, acting as if Trump was done, Fascism was over, White Supremacy was gone, and that all has returned to right and good in the world.

      These elected officials arent even sworn in yet. and wont be sworn in… till january, and idiots are celebrating like jobs done don’t have to worry about it anymore.

      We have a handful of new democrats elected. We have a ton of old democrats that have no compunctions about siding with Republicans and letting Republican shit go through in exchange for that AIPAC/Big Business money. Just cause a lot of the seating chart is blue doesnt mean blue business will be done, nor does it mean red business will be stopped.

      This shit isnt the fuck over. The shit is only just about to begin to get started.

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      2 things about Obama.

      1. He had no idea what he was doing. He was chosen because he had no experience and would not expect to know how to rock the boat much less try. He was also naive and thought other people could be trusted to at least not hurt themselves in their attempts to hurt everyone else.
      2. He only had a Democratic majority for just a handful of months. Bullshit lawsuits kept him from having the majority that had been voted in for almost a year. When he finally got a majority he got the ACA passed, but even then he didn’t have enough of a majority to push it through without watering it down to near useless.

      I think most of us were pretty disappointed that Obama didn’t do more, but looking back, it was pretty clear that he was only brought in as the janitor to clean up after the previous cluster fuck.

      • plyth@feddit.org
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        I think most of us were pretty disappointed that Obama didn’t do more

        The president is the head of the executive branch, not of the legislation. It’s not his job to change the law. That’s already the first layer of deception.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        he was only brought in as the janitor to clean up after the previous cluster fuck.

        oh I also thought it would be convenient to have him in office if the second great depression came through, so they could just blame the black guy.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        it was pretty clear that he was only brought in as the janitor to clean up after the previous cluster fuck.

        Thats the job expected of every democrat president.

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        Obama did exactly what he was supposed to. Capture a popular social movement and prevent it from actually accomplishing anything.

        Its why Democrats exist.

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            Because only a complete moron would say the ACA did nothing.

            Is it great? No but it’s so, so much better than what existed before. It literally has saved many lives and if not for that shitstain Lieberman could’ve gone further.

            Maybe everyone here is too young to realize how awful healthcare was before that.

            Criticize sure but people sound like idiots when they downtalk a huge piece of legislation that actually improved things a lot, even if not obviously being the best solution.

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              I agree, but it wasn’t the Democrats idea. It was the Republicans who proposed it, and the insurance companies backed because they saw dollar signs

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              Or you know… Actual universal healthcare and pushing to punish the financial elite for the 2008 crash

              Edit: What the actual fuck happened to Lemmy?!

              I’m getting downvoted for saying universal healthcare is better?? Holy shit this place became milquetoast

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                Ill take any other hybrid private insurance /government subsidized system than our current one. The Swiss or Dutch systems would save the US so much.

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          Jeez-uzz. Majick wands are in short supply. What do you expect? This shitshow has been running for several seasons. Subterfuge, chicanery and (most of all) politics have been involved in politics from day one. Life has evolved to be increasingly more dog-eat-dog in all aspects. Perhaps we can hope we’re at the peak of a cycle?