Edit: this is meant to be a shitpost. I don’t care about your favorite series/universe. You do you.
What happens when a stormtrooper shoots at an unnamed redshirt?
It’s like the toast with jam and a cat. The fabric of existence itself will be in danger.
Is that like the buttered bread thing always landing down so you strap it to a cat thing?
Yes, it is that. 🙂
Awesome! Never heard that phrase with jam had to be sure.
Storm trooper still misses, but red shirt dies of heart attack. Or they dodge, slip on a replicated banana and hit their head on the Conn and die, while sending the enterprise on a spin near a black hole. Now Chewbacca has to charm nurse Chappel or the Kryptonians will take advantage and board the ship.
Take that AI, this is human made slop. You’re not better than me.
but the shots fired were from red shirt ensigns
What would happen if storm troopers shot at red shirts?
Wow. Simultaneously, endless war and world peace, as no one dies from war.
With exception of the scifi label and being well known they are not even comparable.
Star Wars is an action/adventure/drama series that happens to be in space (they called it “space opera” for good reason).
Star Trek is a science fiction series, at least until Fuller/Kurtzman (where it stayed more to action/adventure). You kind of have to bisect Star Trek as pre and post Roddenberry/Berman.
I think the best label for Star Wars is probably “Science Fantasy”. Personally, when it comes to this sort of differentiation, I draw the line at: is there magic?
Unpopular opinion of the day: “The Force” isn’t any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters.
Not to mention
It’s not magic, it’s midichlorians!
It’s not midichlorians, it’s heroin.
That explains much of the plot.
Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous’s rehab and he said no no no
That’s a great one. I’ll be using that!
Q is more “magical” than anything in Star Wars.
even in Trek, it’s openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it’s beyond humanity’s current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it.
Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians.
They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway
Agreed, but so is Q.
Yeah, Star Wars is a fantasy that is set in space.
There are aspects of Sci-Fi but the galaxy often blurs the line between magic and technology.
It has space opera elements, but Star Wars anymore is a setting rather than a story.
There’s not much actual sience behind the technobabbel of Star Trek tbh. It’s just as much of a magic system as the force is.
It’s the best technobabble, full stop.
Bormanis was given a hard task, to be fair. So many scripts just had (TECH) written where the writers needed help and Bormanis would have to shoehorn something in (and before Bormanis, the actors probably just made a lot of it up).
Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity.
Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity.
This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue.
I watch Star Wars for spaceships and laser sword fights.
I watch Star Trek for courtroom episodes.
Yes to Andor, and before that Rouge One was the best thing to come out after the admittedly cheesy original 3 (before Lucas added all the lame animation over them).
That wasn’t awkward, it was “oh. Yeah.”
I’m not so sure. If we’re everything that carries the Star Trek logo as a whole, then currently Star Trek is incredibly shit.
“Somehow Kahn has returned”
Neelix Neelix got more athletic & has a very long tongue now.
Depends on which star trek and which star wars
Eh, they both have their place. I can’t get behind Jedi being emotionally stunted or the federation not using it’s tech to the fullest.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
My knowledge of Star Wars is almost entirely pre-Disney, but I am completely lost here. What is that describing?
Legends stuff. Mostly comics I believe?
the federation not using it’s tech to the fullest.
Funny you say that, since the Federation arguably doesn’t.
Just look at warp drives, for example. A galaxy-class can go from reverse to full forward in a third of a millisecond. Smaller, newer ships like the Intrepid, of the Sovereign, would be both faster and even more agile.
Federation starships should be zooming about the battlefield like dragonflies instead of slowly flying around each other like star wars ships. Though it makes some sense why they won’t, since the viewers would have a fit about it being unrealistic.
My biggest grievance is that the threat of death exists when, between replicators and transporter errors, they could populate their ships with unending clone armies to explore without ever risking anything.
Not having clone armies at least makes sense, since the Federation isn’t exactly that fond of cloning sapients, inorganics aside. Too many ethical issues involved.
Ok, so instead of staffing a ship with 1000 duplicates of one guy who volunteers to go out and risk his life, they could add some extra storage to the transport buffer and require weekly backups of all crew. Then if redshirt #3 dies planet side they just spin him back up and tell him what went wrong. They have video game style save points on every ship and they’re using them to save on gas.
You’d enjoy the opening to Starship Troopers.
The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage but the openinging sequence is good. And the likely inspiration for the drop you described.
The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage
Just have to ask…you do realize it’s satire, right?
The book? Or the movie?
The book is 100% serious. It’s fucking ridiculous. But Heinlein is pretty sincere and uses it as his philosophical treatise. There’s more than one section where he sits everyone down in a classroom for a lecture.
The movie is satire. It takes the themes presented and makes sure that everyone who espouses the virtues of the militant fascist state is horribly disfigured.
I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right.
As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together.
Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you’ve described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you’re pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others.
The film adaptation was satirical, but the novel that it was based on was not.
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Andor has been better than anything Star Trek has put out in the last ten years.
Yeah, and cow shit’s better than pig shit.
But it’s all still shit.
What didn’t you like about Andor? And if your answer is “I didn’t see it”, then why do you already have an opinion on it?
Andor’s the exception to the rule.
[Edit: oh, oops, I guess I still had other comments in my mind when I was replying to that. Was replying more to the general the new stuff’s not as good as the old stuff vibe. Though still, under scrutiny, even the old Star Wars stuff has a lot of holes, and so it’s hard to build something good on that. So I guess in the case of Andor, they’ve managed to improve(?) more.]
Star Wars is for people that want actual science fiction that explores the consequences of empathic abilities, telekinesis and precognition. Religions form around the people that have those abilities, people are corrupted by the power those abilities give them over other people. The entire politics of a galaxy revolve around it. That’s science fiction… exploring the consequences of fictional science.
Star Trek is for people that like science fantasy where everything is treated as just magical abilities that different races of people just have. The space elves (Vulcans) have telepathic abilities and it’s just accepted as magic only the space elves have. The Q are sorcerers that can change the laws of physics and it’s not questioned because aliens are magic. Nobody in Star Trek actually studies these things and try to create technology to recreate what the aliens can do, because it’s not science, it’s magic.
Star Wars is science fiction, Star Trek is science fantasy. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Yup, took me 30 years.
Back in the day, episode 2 made me realize I didn’t like Star Wars that much, I just really loved Empire.
Original trilogy + EU books/comics/games is peak star wars for me. Rogue squadron, young Jedi academy, thrawn trilogy, etc. Star trek I think delivers more consistently across series but if I had to pick a peak maybe end of tng beginning of ds9/voyager.
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Maybe it’s because I grew up with these shows, and now I’m old I just want something with a bit more heft.
It’s just all seems like light entertainment these days. Something akin to The Expanse is what I’m after.
The Expanse has ruined my enjoyment of most space sci-fi shows. It was too good
Try the expense audiobooks. They are as good and better than the TV show
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Lower decks! Lower decks! Lower decks!
No.
not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount.
I don’t subscribe to disney either. so I’ve basically missed out of anything that wasn’t on netflix. and I’m probably going to cancel netflix too.
not gonna sub
to paramountnot gonna subto paramountnot gonna subto paramount.There, I’ve fixed it for you.
Now do like the rest of us Orions and watch the best Star Trek since TNG.
ech… I’m one of those ancient weirdos who want artists to get paid for their work. and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
That I get 100%
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
I don’t know if it’s still applicable to productions taking place today across the board, but SAG still exists so I have to believe a large number of hollywood productions still give residuals to people…?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual_(entertainment_industry)
I know for many it’s a pittance but better something than nothing at all.
I’m probably thinking too much into all this and will catch up sometime in the future after the apocalypse. thanks for the insight.
If I’m getting this article correctly, they’re only getting paid for the success of the show within 90 days of release on a streaming platform. Everything else is based on the streaming service buying the license to show the series.
So the only way to maybe get them some additional pay would be for you to purchase it through some non streaming method like buying a dvd from amazon, or to wait for paramount to sell the license to a new streaming service and you take part in the whatever percentage of the service is required to watch the show within 90 days for them to get a bonus.
You have an objection to sailing the high seas?
yeah I’m one of those idiots who think artists should be paid for their labors :|
I know, it’s like… so last century. I did some arrrrrgghmatey kinda stuff when I was younger but not since like… newsgroup releases back in the protoweb days.
Mail some cash to the artists then.
artists should be paid for their labors
I get that, but if you’ll never pay for paramount, I imagine if you asked the artists whether they’d rather have their work stolen or never viewed at all I suspect they’d choose the latter.
Idk, Star Wars and Star Trek only share the sense that they’re both in space, overall both very different and we like both. Personally we like Star Wars more because autism brain but yeah start trek is good too :3
On another note entirely, this looks like one of those memes that’s a still clip from a porn film with an amusing unrelated caption
